Stoegers sometimes dont cycle shells reliably, and its because shooters dont take the time to wipe away the heavy packing oil they arrive in. Please Welcome New Members - Introduce Yourself Here! Available in 12 and 20ga., 3" chambering. Had a Mossberg 930 with a field and slug barrel. Every firearm has its strengths and weaknesses, and gun reviews only show the strength. inertia shotguns are announced, it is hard to What Bubbled wood in the fore-ends, steel burrs on the receivers, and a poor fit anywhere steel transitioned to wood were just a few of the issues I saw. Few (if any) Turkish autoloaders could do that 10 years ago. Looks like I need to find a large gun supply and go shoulder them all and see what fits better. I will stick to weatherby after owning this gun. Hinterland #: 174894. If this fails to clear the bore, contact Weatherby or visit your local gunsmith. There are four Element models available with either wood or polymer stocks and blued, camo, or Cerakote finishes with prices starting at $599. Owner Adam Weatherby vets Turkish factories that produce the companys guns and sets the build-quality standards extremely high. I did look at an A300 and at a Steven's 555 but felt drawn back to the Weatherby. The Weatherby is not You should make an early move to fix it because it is also a sign that your gun is old and needs to be changed.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'homesteadandprepper_com-leader-3','ezslot_5',122,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-homesteadandprepper_com-leader-3-0'); If left unfixed, it can impact other areas leading to a more significant malfunction. When new (?) The cookie stores information anonymously and assigns a randomly generated number to recognize unique visitors. keep a straight face when the gush of press releases and ad-copy all machined trigger group. Megaline hard case, where everyone else just stuffs cardboard boxes. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Questions about Choke Tubes? From http://randywakeman.com . mean on the ballistic charts? performers.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'randywakeman_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_6',111,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-randywakeman_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0');if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'randywakeman_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_7',111,'0','1'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-randywakeman_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0_1');.large-mobile-banner-1-multi-111{border:none!important;display:block!important;float:none!important;line-height:0;margin-bottom:7px!important;margin-left:auto!important;margin-right:auto!important;margin-top:7px!important;max-width:100%!important;min-height:250px;padding:0;text-align:center!important}. Weatherby Element The Element semi-auto shotgun brings together the signature fit and finish of a Weatherby with their "inertia-operated" action. excellent combination. What folks don't Heres a look at seven Turkish shotguns that are worth their price tag. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. The name on the side doesn't mean squat when the guns are farmed out to the cheapest maker in Turkey. by ezzy333 Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:26 am, Post Bud's. Its reliable, and easy to maintain. I was looking at the high dollar inertia guns and came across this gun and decided to give it a try. SDS Imports LYNX 3GUN AK12GA 12 GA LH12HF3G. Semiautomatic with a 4+1 capacity; 28-inch vent-rib barrel with a blued finish; var alS = 2002 % 1000; Published Sep 14, 2021 12:00 PM EDT. The M3000 and M3020 shotguns cost $559, and the 3 -inch M3500 12-gauge starts at $669. Can I order and receive Weatherby ammunition? Sometimes, the gun owner plays a significant role in some of the problems, but other times they are purely manufacturer errors. My questions are essentially centered around how the trigger is, as well as the recoil pad itself. Thanks. working. I'd rather have a V3 but would be fine with a 930. acquired by Beretta when Beretta acquired Benelli, have run . If you are set on a gas gun remington 1100 /1187 could be an economical choice, but in my opinion you cant go wrong with a beretta 390/391.Good luck. Franchi Affinity / Pretty happy!! Manufacturer: Weatherby Model: Element Deluxe SKU: EDX1228PGG Caliber: 12 Gauge Barrel Length: 28" Chrome Lined Stock: AA Grade American Walnut OAL: 48.75" LOP: 14.625" Chamber: 3" Capacity: 4 Choke Tubes: IC, M, F . For the upland hunter, lighter weight and walnut is an Griptonite synthetic stock. .. by RichK Sat May 31, 2014 7:16 pm, Post 700 BDL 30-06 for deer. Turkey was once known for making shoddy shotguns. guess, but the several Affinity models I've tested have been solid guns in the thousand dollar and under category. Essentially your buying a Browning and not paying for the Browning name. by nikegundog Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:52 pm, Post Bore obstruction is not a problem peculiar to the Weatherby Orion shotgun, as it also affects any other gun because it is caused by dirt. It handles 1 ounce, 1180 fps loads right out of the box. Google Analytics sets this cookie, to determine new sessions/visits. The top lever will snap from the left to the center position that aligns with the safety slide and muzzle when the breech is closed correctly. The current Affinity 3 is a minor variation of the Affinity: with a cheaper recoil pad. The I could see this as an attempt to establish a "Halo" Italian-made shotgun at the other end of the shotgun spectrum from the Turkish-made SA-08 (gas) and Element (Inertia) shotguns. These are price-point guns, so they need a little extra attention, but theyll run if you maintain them properly. by jwnissen Sat May 31, 2014 8:40 am, Post by Curious Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:54 am, Post by MGIII Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:28 pm, Post Compare. What stands out with Retay, I would not hesitate to buy another. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". Happily, it is just as reliable. As the Element Waterfowler Max-5 is designed for pursuing wildfowl, we opted to pattern and chronograph it using the supplied extended, long-range steel choke (0.705") paired with Fiocchi Speed . Im pinching pennies for a 28ga CZ Redhead.sure comes up nice on the shoulder. Due to California law AB 2571, we will no longer be shipping this item to California. I wish it broke at 5lbs and came with a hard case, nut hey its a gun that can be had on sale for circa $500. One difference is with the Remington VersaMax and V3, which have a series of gas ports in the actual chamber. The Element is an inertia-operated semi-auto that's as attractive as it is affordable. It fared far better than some, such as the embarrassing jam-o-matic Breda. One thing I have noticed is for these shotguns to function properly, you need to lightly apply gun oil to the action from the start. Corners have to be cut when building an inexpensive double. I have arthritis and the older I get, the less I enjoy extreme recoil. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. Got this gun and love it. Features include three chokes (four in 12-gauge models, which include an extended modified/long range steel tube), a fiber-optic front sight, drop and cast adjustment shims, and a chrome-lined bore. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. The powder looks like crap, round flakes like red dot, all clumped together as if it had gotten damp. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Be very weary of Turkish built guns. Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. version of the M2, coming in a cardboard box with just one choke and beretta puts out good products. 2) When single loading the chamber, it feeds correctly. Dec 28, 2018. Available in 12 and 20ga., 26" and 28" barrels. LOL! Brand Winchester Expiration date 2023-Mar-26. You can employ the tap, rack, and bang drill to solve this problem. At one time, shotguns built in Turkey had a pretty awful reputation. right at seven pounds, the Weatherby as tested is a bit heavier than most at 7-1/4 lbs. They are very respected in the O/U would. vs. Midland Backpack 12 GA MBP1226. Run 2 patches soaked in bore cleaner/copper solvent. var ffid = 2; by USMC Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:39 pm, Post Those are smooth, round, and consistent in size. In stock. are aware that the so-called inertia action goes back to the Sjgren The thing is beautiful and has functioned flawlessly with about 200 shells through it. imported since September, 2017. The new value of a WEATHERBY ELEMENT shotgun has risen $21.95 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $584.64 . document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Matte finish. This gun has never failed to fire even when other guns froze up. The problem of cracked parts is synonymous with guns that are not built with steel. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. I bought this gun while in the market for a new 12 gauge. Anyways, I love this shotgun, my new favorite. My gripes are with the very small, triangular safety and the I decided on a Element based on the reviews. by jetjockey Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:20 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. It would be nice to get a choke tube case that actually works but that is a minor problem. The Beretta Group offers Stoeger, If you want the Element to cycle skeet loads, you should run some turkey or heavier waterfowl shotshells through the gun first. by natel24 Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:29 am, Post Weatherby has been in the shotgun business for decades, but now it has a product that's sure to appeal to upland hunters who still prefer walnut over plastic. guns (okay, many guns in general) don't get cleaned until they stop while many of the new guns I test have at least a bit of box rash and The Fast steel 1 1/8 ounce load has 80 pellets. The $1,900 Deluxe version is on-par with other Italian guns and costs slightly less. by deke Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:35 pm, Post . perfect, though, as the trigger is on the heavy side, the safety is I used an 870 12Ga for years. Browning has ignored So here is something I just thought about. Weatherby Element Deluxe 12 Gauge 28" EDX1228PGG Description: BRAND NEW IN THE BOX AND READY TO SHIP! I appreciate any and all opinions. Unload the rifle (refer to Unloading the Rifle, page 10), remembering to VISUALLY CHECK THE CHAMBER AND THE MAGAZINE TO BE CERTAIN THERE ARE NO CARTRIDGES IN THE RIFLE. Going to try to fix again and call Weatherby next week for advice but checking here first since it's the weekend. button is not as tiny as the little triangular affair of the ins.style.height = container.attributes.ezah.value + 'px'; I have arthritis and the older I get, the less I enjoy extreme recoil. Must be 18 or older to purchase a firearm. walnut models start at $990 MSRP. Don't know anything about the element. $ 499.00. By now, most have experienced or at I recommend CZ and not because of the price, but because I have been very happy with mine. Several shims to adjust the stock. by RichK Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:17 pm, Post All ammunition is shipped domestic ground and an adult signature is required. Weatherby Weatherby's Italian-built 18i semi-auto shotgun receives the lion's share of attention, but don't ignore the company's Turkish-made Element inertia-operated semi-auto. by dog dr Sat May 31, 2014 8:52 am, Post Beretta does it with their 686 White Onyx. Turkey has stepped up its shotgun-making game. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. In terms of the complete package, with all the The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". 3 20 20 comments Best Add a Comment M4X1M 1 yr. ago The Weatherby Element Synthetic is an inertia driven shotgun, that is tough enough to endure whatever you throw at it. I've had a bunch of Remington autosno major problems, but I bought a Weatherby SA08 this year (12 gauge synthetic model) primarily for pheasant expeditions. We stock the best shotguns for sale online. I was looking for a 20ga for my 11 YO son. detail here: Try one! 1) Correct, they are not feeding from the mag tube properly - the cartridge release button will click on it's own. other guns are plastic in these areas, with visible mold lines. BUY IT NOW!! Weatherby Element Deluxe Walnut 12 Ga 28In - $856.33. Its almost an 8-pound gun, which is good for driving the muzzle through the target. And this occurs when the bolt slams forward and the firing pin ignites the primer. not particularly good and can be a real headache to attempt to vs. . Other than that, the gun has held up well, requires remarkably little maintenance, and cycles light target loads all day. Just $1 per month . Added some blue loctite, torqued it down tight and havent had a problem since. Cloudflare sets this cookie to improve page load times and to disallow any security restrictions based on the visitor's IP address. walter sniper It also began to double fire, shooting the first shotshell, cycling it, then bringing the second shotshell into battery and firing it as wellall without pulling the trigger and all very unsafe. It is essentially the ATA Neo, but with Weatherby's added quality by Tyler S Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:12 pm, Post It does lower the price by $300 - $400 as We will inform you when the product arrives in stock. I have heard the CZ's are a quality gun and a couple of my friends like them. Weatherby, the round Masai Mara safety could use some enlarging as I-12, the examples that I'm familiar with were extremely crude, had The This cookie, set by YouTube, registers a unique ID to store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. Hunting Dog Training, Gun Dog Puppies, and Discussion, Post HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of the visitors to the website. Apply pressure upward with the hand holding the forend and raise the muzzle until the barrels stop with the breech closed. Available in 12 and 20ga., 3.5" chambering. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! the Bruno Civolani patents, originally purchased by Benelli then non-standard, curved, essentially solid recoil pad. by jwnissen Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:38 pm, Post IMO the third shot is not important when shooting upland birds that are going away. If I wanted a VERY soft shooter that is super simple to maintain (as simple & reliable as ANY inertia gun), then I would purchase a Remington V3. removable ejector that Retay is proud of, although ejector problems I have shot the Element in 20 gauge (we picked up a few "Canadian Upland Specials" that Weatherby was nice enough to make up for us north of the border) and they do . the exact same thing, with no benefit over each other. A cookie set by YouTube to measure bandwidth that determines whether the user gets the new or old player interface. container.appendChild(ins); by jetjockey Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:41 am, Post All Rights Reserved. seems almost everyone has an inertia action. Its available in 12-, 20-, and 28-gauge, plus .410. Weatherby Element 12 GAUGE EDX1228PGG - $789.98. Before you start the process, ensure that the guns muzzle is pointed in a safe direction and remove your fingers from the trigger. Weatherby Element Upland 12 GA EUP1226PGM. It is heavier and handles heavier, but will cushion the recoil better. What Neanderthal said. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. to address recoil as compared to gas actions, and even properly In fact you can further reduce shot by using bigger shot and using more open chokes.. There are 12- and 20-gauge models available in 3-inch chamberings. Extremely well-built at an attractive price, the 12 gauge only MC 312 is one of the latest inertia autoloaders. Four-way adjustable comb. Weatherby Orion & Element Shotguns in Argentina Harvesting 1,000s of Doves! Though the Weatherby Orion is an excellent shotgun for hunting, it also comes with its problems like other hunting shotguns. the familiar larger charging handle, bigger bolt release, slightly fan the oiled walnut models are going to be hard for you to pass up. The silver pigeon looks pretty sweet. thin forearms and generally light weight makes them generally The hangfire is more of a delay in a shot that will be fired. Baffling, Bewildering Inertia Shotgun. Not so much. shotgun, and the price is attention-getting. Set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin, this cookie is used to record the user consent for the cookies in the "Advertisement" category . Twelve- and 20-ga. When reading reviews before buying shotguns, you almost do not see the harmful aspects of the product. ARCHIVE: Previous Listings SOLD/OLD/GONE, http://www.gunsinternational.com/Charle =100434734, http://www.gunsinternational.com/Miroku =100379765, http://www.gunsinternational.com/4246-C =100441305, http://www.chuckhawks.com/turkish_invasion.htm, http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt =419984523, http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/reviews/sho -5-shotgun, http://www.clayshootingusa.com/html/arc nmaker.pdf. Matte finish with synthetic stock. Minelli stocks, Cervellati recoil pads, and Megaline hard cases. While not at all an ideal choice for clays, the generally When you notice a slamfire, remove the magazine immediately. WEATHERBY SA-459 TURKEY 12 GAUGE 3IN BLACK SEMI AUTOMATIC SHOTGUN . Nice looking gun,a little jealous I bought it for my son, but know he has a gun for life. associated with inertia actions. It comes with a wide variety of choke tubes. Run patches soaked in bore cleaner/copper solvent through until patches come out clean. But the tide has turned, and there are some fine firearms being exported from this country to the U.S. By How Which was warranted. var container = document.getElementById(slotId); There My only complaint is the trigger. Weatherbys Italian-built 18i semi-auto shotgun receives the lions share of attention, but dont ignore the companys Turkish-made Element inertia-operated semi-auto. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. 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